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Pornography In The Transgendered World

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  1. 1. Does It hurt our community?

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I will be the first to admit that I enjoy adult entertainment on occasion. But I have noticed that Transgender oriented adult material appears to be on a rise where I live. I have met people who enjoy it and think it's "kinky". That view of it bothers me. Viewing it as some form of perversion, gets under my skin. But as a whole, does it hurt our community? I would really like to hear some opinions on this, provided that this topic isn't breaking any rules here.

Rachael

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Well, it doesn't hurt the community anymore then Lesbian and Gay porn hurt the Lesbian and Gay community.

Porn, is in a way, for the interest of the perversion of sexual acts between individuals, whatever those acts and whoever takes place in them.

I don't think its any different then any porn thats out there, its just a different Genre.

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I also admit to occasionally enjoying adult entertainment. As for whether it is necessarily bad? I am not sure. Some guys I have met think it is reality which makes their approach really creepy. Most guys know the difference and understand it is a packaged product. Certainly, with some people, it affects their perception of us - and I wonder if those individuals would act any different if they had had no exposure to TS pornography. Ultimately, that is unknowable.

Bobbie

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Honestly, assuming it isn't forced and they are completely willing to do it, I think it's their choice. I don't see why we should hold any ill will towards people who are doing a job, that's all it is, is another job. Granted it isn't the most politically correct job but if they want to do it that's their thing in my opinion. I don't think it hurts our community, I mean in any way I can see at least. I say more power to em if they do it and even enjoy it.

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Well, as long as adults are participating in the making of it and adults are the ones consuming it, there is little to say, I guess..

Personally I'm not a fan of "crossdresser" porn and find it degrading the same way I feel about GG porn..

When I was searching for help with my Transsexualism, all I could find on the net was crossdresser stuff and I was crushed...I thought that there MUST be more to being Trans than that!

Then I found Lauras and normality.

I don't begrudge the girls doing it as long as they are adults and they're not caught in a drug induced prison...

To each their own...

Donna Jean

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The main problem with "crossdresser" porn is the influence it has on our public perception. People have much easier access to this than they do to valid information. The same goes for anyone who thinks they may be tans and wants to find out more, as DJ pointed out before. Just look at how many people think "crossdresser","crossdresser", and "He-She" are not only appropriate but preffered names for us.

First off the names have to go. Then take into account that I'm certain at least a majority of trans girls in porn are there because they have no where else to go. Abandoned by their families, with no money living on the streets, they get hooked on drugs and turn to porn and prostitution for money, drugs and hormones. Are all involved like this? No. But as long as there's even one there's a problem we as a community must address.

Then back to the perception issue. Just as lesbian porn has caused men across the world to think of lesbians as blond bimbos who only play with each other until there's penis to be had (yes, there are men who think this, a lot of them. I have first-hand experience), Trans porn creates an image of trans women as nothing but sex objects, mainly because there is no other view avilable to the average shmo. Think about it. The arguement that GG porn and even models in advertising cause women to be percieved as sex objects. That can be tempered by strong female roles emerging in Hollywood, creating a view of women in control, independant, and capable of intelligent thought. As of right now, we have no tempering imagery. All the world sees of us is in porn.

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Think about it. The arguement that GG porn and even models in advertising cause women to be percieved as sex objects. That can be tempered by strong female roles emerging in Hollywood, creating a view of women in control, independant, and capable of intelligent thought. As of right now, we have no tempering imagery. All the world sees of us is in porn.

BRAVO!

*CLAP....CLAP....CLAP....CLAP*

Donna Jean

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While I'm not against porn I think often the first two things that come to mind when someone hears trans are "crossdresser" and prostitute.

Our real fight to being accepted is to be seen as the normal people we are from the full spectrum of backgrounds, education sexuality and income. But most of us are not visible in our communities. Striving to "pass " is all about striving not to be seen as trans. So the main exposure to trans people many people get are unfortunately porn and news about the murders of trans prostitutes which reinforce the stereotypes that are our worst problem.

When a legislator is voting against giving us legal protection, when a hate mongerer is inciting people against us as abominations those are the images that are fixed in their minds. When a teacher is seen as unfit because she or he is trans, when we are threatened and lose our jobs and friends it is often because porn and trans are so indelibly linked in the public mind. So it hurts every one of us-every day.

How do we change it? By being as visible as we can, as normal people, because even though the effects are damaging we can't control what the media reports-or the porn industry. To say it's bad for us isn't to say we can or should stop it. But we need to be aware and counteract it.

Even the seemingly positive report about the capture of the man who murdered the California transwoman mentioned that thee man frequented transwoman prostitutes. So there it was again. No longer the story of a beautiful young woman murdered by someone she was attempting to aid but just another transwoman prostitute story. Grrrrr (The "just" isn't my view but you KNOW that's how people feel. It let them file it away as "Well, what do you expect?") and the murder had NOTHING at all to do with whether or not she was a prostitute. Nothing. Porn and prostitution are also understandably intertwined in the public mind.

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Yes - last two comments especially. It hurts in ways we don't really see. I am not a drag queen, a crossdresser, a shim, nor a freak. I do not want to be the subject of some man's mastibatory fantasy. I just dont!

I have a condition of gender dysphoria, and I cannot help that I am originally male bodied and need to be a woman... it's just how it worked out.

So like women in general, we are forced to be sex objects - but of the most unusual type, something a few males os dubious sexual orientation can ogle and feel they are not attracted to our male origins, but rather to our femininty.

This is the MTF part of the community I suppose. It's much more complicated than what I wrote, all sexual business is, but pornography is never going to go away, it just appeals to a basic need that is tied in to our survival as humanity.

So good and bad, but I feel we are misrepresented. Perhaps it is the imbedded word 'sex' in transexual that causes it to a degree. Perhaps is because we are a curiosity. Most likely it is because we allow ourselves to be expoited to a degree because we are naive, and just want acceptance, even if it is in the 'adult' industry.

My opinion as usual

Lizzy

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Indeed, today there is still a lot of ignorance about transsexuals. The porn industry is not helping. However, the level of acceptance of us is on the rise. Consider where the world was at even 20-30 years ago. The world has progressed in their understanding of transgendered people. Many common TV shows will have episodes that have a transsexual character (real or portrayed) that actually help to show how we are not crazy, perverts, or dangerous. We are people.

I am encouraged to see the younger generation is more accepting than my generation. I would expect that in the next 20-30 years. Being transgendered will not have the stigma that it has today, and true world wide acceptance will exist. In fact, not to accept us would be considered terribly ignorant by that time.

Brenda

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While I'm not against porn I think often the first two things that come to mind when someone hears trans are "crossdresser" and prostitute.

Our real fight to being accepted is to be seen as the normal people we are from the full spectrum of backgrounds, education sexuality and income. But most of us are not visible in our communities. Striving to "pass " is all about striving not to be seen as trans. So the main exposure to trans people many people get are unfortunately porn and news about the murders of trans prostitutes which reinforce the stereotypes that are our worst problem.

When a legislator is voting against giving us legal protection, when a hate mongerer is inciting people against us as abominations those are the images that are fixed in their minds. When a teacher is seen as unfit because she or he is trans, when we are threatened and lose our jobs and friends it is often because porn and trans are so indelibly linked in the public mind. So it hurts every one of us-every day.

How do we change it? By being as visible as we can, as normal people, because even though the effects are damaging we can't control what the media reports-or the porn industry. To say it's bad for us isn't to say we can or should stop it. But we need to be aware and counteract it.

Even the seemingly positive report about the capture of the man who murdered the California transwoman mentioned that thee man frequented transwoman prostitutes. So there it was again. No longer the story of a beautiful young woman murdered by someone she was attempting to aid but just another transwoman prostitute story. Grrrrr (The "just" isn't my view but you KNOW that's how people feel. It let them file it away as "Well, what do you expect?") and the murder had NOTHING at all to do with whether or not she was a prostitute. Nothing. Porn and prostitution are also understandably intertwined in the public mind.

Exactly! Excellent post!

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i believe that there are plenty of trans sisters who get into that business to pay for surgery and hrt. but a lot of bad things can follow for them.

hugs, Nikki

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I see there is a lot of passion about this subject. More than I expected. I would have to say that while, I find nothing wrong with simple common adult erotica, "crossdresser" (or however you want to term it) pornography bothers me. It has been stated in most posts, but I am going to say it again: it creates a negative and false image of us as freaks, and that is the last thing we need. We already have enough trouble with how the public views us, this genre just adds fuel to the fire.

No part of the porn industry will ever be stopped. Regardless of how hurtful it is to any group. The govt. can't even control illegal pornography, so there's not much citizens can do about a legal part just because of the negative image it drops on us.

The only thing I see that we can do is to inform those that need to be informed about the difference between fiction and reality, without losing our cool. The best defense is a good offense.

Rachael

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Btw, I just noticed the 4th choice on the polls. I don't know what went wrong. That was supposed to say "Indifferent", not "It". Sorry guys.

Rachael

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It's them little gremlins running loose in the forums that love to play pranks on unsuspecting victims. LOL

It's been repaired.

MaryEllen :)

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Oh, give me a break! I like porn. Not all. Just what interests me! No one is forcing anyone to read or view porn.I think there are a lot of real life situations that do more damage to our "image!"

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I like porn and watch it daily. lol That's really the extent my opinions go to about it.

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I likes it too, >.> I know I probably shouldn't bring that up but I felt it needed mentioning. Porn is pretty awesome.

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There is nothing wrong with eroticism :)

Sex, in all its forms, has a place, and is very much part of the human condition.

Stereotyping transsexuals is the problem.

Love

Brenda

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I will inform you all of my great knowledge of porn websites. Lmao

On one website, free porn, the straight, lesbian and transgendered porn was all in the same area. Gay porn was in its own area, though. I saw no problem with that.

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Lol dun worry I has my resources :3

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Does pornography in the transgendered world hurt our cause - why do you even ask?

Our biggest single obstacle to acceptance and understanding lies in organized religious groups who feel that all pornography is the work of the devil so aligning ourselves with that industry just empowers their whole abomination perception.

We need to life exemplary lives just to be considered not to be an immediate threat, for every good upstanding TG leader in the community there are thousands of the Jerry Springer variety popping up everywhere throwing fuel on a fire that has long been burning out of control.

Love ya,

Sally

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Does pornography in the transgendered world hurt our cause - why do you even ask?

Our biggest single obstacle to acceptance and understanding lies in organized religious groups who feel that all pornography is the work of the devil so aligning ourselves with that industry just empowers their whole abomination perception.

We need to life exemplary lives just to be considered not to be an immediate threat, for every good upstanding TG leader in the community there are thousands of the Jerry Springer variety popping up everywhere throwing fuel on a fire that has long been burning out of control.

Love ya,

Sally

Just curious. Sorry.

Rachael

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I have a friend that left home because of non acceptance, went to sin city but was unable to find a job, went back home and tried to do the guy thing but could not do it and moved back with a friend of hers, she now does escorting and who knows what else to make a living, she says now she does not plan on having srs.

I will admit before i started transition i spent allot of time at those "crossdresser" sights, not for the sexual part of it but because i wanted to look like some of them minus the extra baggage, since transitioning i have not gone to one site.

Even more degrading besides those porn sites are the TV shows like Jerry Springer and Dr. Phil, many more everyday people watch those shows, you and i know they will do just about anything to get viewers and ratings with little regard as to how it makes the rest of us look.

Paula

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Jerry Springer is just absolute Trash TV.

End, of, Discussing, in, Regards.

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